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Message ID: 20114
Date: Thu Jun 29 00:19:34 BST 2000
Author: Jeffrey Sue
Subject: RE: [eqbards] grouping thread on the Everquest boards


At 02:13 PM 6/28/00 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm 30th as I'm pretty sure I stated many times, just not in my recent
>replies perhaps. I am grouped with a ranger 90% of the time as they and a
>monk are our guild's only tanks. (our warrior recently quit EQ sadly)
>
>Attack speedup songs are pointless as the 'chanter Alacrity's all the tanks
>and that's better than any speedups I have.

yeah, that's fine.


>Chains is useless unless I want to break the ranger's snares. Or the other
>ranger's, or the druid's, or the other druid's.

well chains also decreases mob attack speed. maybe you should communicate with
him and chain the first 2/3 of the fight, and then snare at about 1/3 health before he
starts to run.

>It all comes down to the same problem really. A bard is an awesome way to
>make up for the lack of having a particular type of caster in your group
>whatever that missing type might be. If you have all the major types
>covered though, we look like lousy psuedo-tanks with some interesting
>secondary abilities.

i seem to always find a way to contribute to a group, regardless of the makeup.

>It goes back to my previous bard complaint from way back, being a third rate
>everything does not necessarily balance out with being best at something.
>If there was a better balance between casters and melee classes in EQ we
>would instantly become more useful as any given group would be more likely
>to be missing some type they needed.

i don't agree that we are third rate at everything, but that's just my personal opinion.
if you actually believe this, then why play a bard? it seems that a lot of your
dissatisfaction comes from your vision of a bard not agreeing with how a bard is
really implemented in everquest.

>When was the last time you entered a zone to see shouts of "Bard wanted for
>group"?

lots of times. and yeah if they ask for an enchanter, sometimes they really just
need clarity so you can skate in on that.

>I'd answer never. Every time I play I see "Cleric needed for group", or
>"Enchanter needed for group", or "2 Tanks needed for group". I may not get
>refused by groups but the first question is always "Do you have manasong?"
>(I play Anon) The response is always "Oh. Darn". If Lullaby worked even
>marginally I'd start ansewring those "enchanter wanted" shouts and see if
>they were really "Clarity wanted".
>
> Kit