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Message ID: 20308
Date: Wed Jul 5 19:33:29 BST 2000
Author: Kevin L. Crawford
Subject: Re: [eqbards] getting new friends


No, you're mistaking having to time button presses (meaning you can't get a
word in edgewise) with pushing "more" buttons. Tanks push just as many (or
damn close) but if they miss a beat or two it's not the end of the world.

Basically other classes can take a moment to chat then get right back to
button pushing. So can we but that messes up our song weave because ours is
timed. It's not that we're pushing *more* just that we are *required* to
push them at certain times or have our spells go down.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Wasserman" <wassermana@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] getting new friends


> Um, no.
>
> Bards push more buttons.
>
> Every other class can type full sentances during combat. With 100 wpm, I'm
> lucky to get in 3 words in between songs.
>
> Think about it this way, I'm pushing a minumum of 2 buttons every 3
seconds.
> If I'm charming it's way more...
>
> stop song
> target mob
> start charm
> assist main tank
> stop song
> start song
> tell pet to attack
>
> all in the span of 3-6 seconds.
>
> My party tells me I'm slacking if they hear me chatting during battle.
>
> Draelon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin L. Crawford [mailto:Lyrnia@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 12:19 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] getting new friends
>
>
> Actually, I've played my ranger from level 1 to level 40 untwinked
unhelped
> and mostly solo...
>
> Ranger combat:
>
> Hit Sense heading constantly to max skill
> Make sure you have correct target
> Make sure target stays snared (esp painful if there's a magician in the
grou
> **curses all magicians and their stupid earth pets**)
> Hit Kick when button recycles
> Hit Taunt whenever button recycles (unless there is a warrior in the
group)
> Keep an eye on the casters to make sure nothing jumps them. If it does,
run
> over, taunt it away and stick-root it.
>
> No offense guys. I've played 3 bards over 20th level (beta, test and
> release server) (Beta to 30, Test to 51, Release server to 46) and, yes,
we
> have a lot of button pushing to do. But all other hybrids have it just as
> bad, if not worse:
>
> Ranger:
> Taunt
> Kick
> Cast
> Sense heading (for those of us who are just totally nuts)
> Keep track of all mobs in case one goes after a caster.
> Stick - Root as a poor-man's mez
> Primary puller in any outdoor zone.
> (((Button pressed every 1.5 to 2 seconds)))
>
> Bard:
> Sing, swing
> Sing, swing
> Keep an eye on the casters, charm anything that goes after em.
>
> IMHO: My bard is a lot less button pushing and less tactically challenged
> during a specific fight.
>
> That being said, however, bards have the most STRATEGIC difficulty of any
> class in the game. IE: We have to know exactly what to have memorised in
> any given situation to reach peak effectiveness. All other classes, for
the
> most part, have to memorise basically one set of spells with a small
> "alternative" subset. Bard song lists change on a area, group makeup,
group
> size basis.
>
> Bards are harder but we don't push any more buttons nor are our jobs any
> more difficult (and in some cases our jobs are downright easy) than other
> classes.
>
> Lyrnia Jongleur
> Bard of Norrath since Beta 2
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Big Daddy Legba" <legba@...>
> To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] getting new friends
>
>
> > They hit a single button ever few rounds, we double hit buttons ever 3
> > seconds.
> >
> > It is a HUGE difference (my tertiary character is a monk). My monk
talks
> > all the time in combat, its next to impossible for my bard to talk.
> > Basically I can type 2 words between songs, thats it...
> >
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