Heh heh, yeah you do have to love the Verant idea that 'Truth' is mutable.
Or loathe it more likely.
That was one of my favorite posts from long ago.
Q: Why don't we get Parry and Riposte?
A: You aren't really hybrids, you're more like casters
Q: Why don't we get Bind and Gate?
A: You're hybrids they don't get bind and gate only pure casters do
For a long time that was literally the Verant answer regarding bards to
every question on why we didn't get something. You aren't 'X', where 'X'
was the group that did get the ability.
Kitasi Faegehearper
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Mann [mailto:
dabard@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:26 AM
To:
eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Oh this can't be good....
For me, it's not so much that I'm getting an exp penalty as it is that VI is
using it against us.
Example:
VI: "All hybrids get a mana boost" (and honestly, I could care less about
more mana)
Bards: "Where is our mana boost?"
VI: "You are not hybrids"
VI: "All hybrids have an exp penalty"
Bards: "Why do we have it?"
VI: "You are hybrids"
DOH!
Another of my favorites is
VI: "No, mana for bards isn't really mana usage, but a timer to stem off
possible exploits"
Bards: "Well, since it's just a timer and we don't have any way to regen
mana faster, what about the death penalty?"
VI: "Tough s***"
Another big problem I have with Abashi's post is that he himself admitted
that there was "an in advertant nerf" to Chains when they lowered the rate
on the lvl 54 song. He then stated that a patch would follow to fix it.
This is the first that has been mentioned since then. I guess our patch was
"It's not broken".
And I'm not even going to get into Lullaby or the fact that a literal wave
of song ideas were posted months ago for the level 49 song, and we have been
given no word yet.
-=B=-
Disgruntled Bard of 39 Seasons
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin L. Crawford <Lyrnia@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Oh this can't be good....
> I agree but that isn't a valid arguement for removing xp penalties. It's
a
> valid arguement for changing the way that group experience is shared. It
> should be based on level, not on total xp gained. The reason it was set
up
> the way it is was that Verant felt, and I tend to agree with them, that
> friends would be grouping alot and would want to level at the same rate so
> they divided xp the way they did so that friends would level at around the
> same rate.
>
> This worked, but the problem is that most people do not, in fact, group
with
> their 'friends' regularly and thus groups of strangers are penalized for
the
> hybrid's experience.
>
> Unfortunately experience sharing is embedded deeply into the client and
I'm
> not sure if Verant is willing to totally re-write the game engine to fix
> something that was put in intentionally. I'm not sure I would expect them
> to.
>
> > The hybrid penalty is a HUGE problem. If it worked like it did in AD&D,
> > fine, that would be one thing. The problem is not that a class is
slower
> to
> > level, but rather that having a hybrid in your group makes the whole
group
> > level slower. This unfairly penalizes your group members for what is
> > supposed to be your penalty.
>
>
>
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