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Message ID: 23410
Date: Tue Jan 23 22:12:55 GMT 2001
Author: Daniel P. Sniderman
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Instruments (was complete heal)


Read your comment wrong about stops - but you are still wrong on hunting
horns. The Sound is made by "Buzzing" the brass method and they do have
partials - they are harder to make but there (I've tried them out).

The determining factor - for flutes and early winds - the vibration is the
resistance of the air crossing a blow hole. The hunting horns are NOT
played that way. The shape of the horn is NOT an issue for determining how
the sound is created, only altered.

Slyde


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:03 PM
To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Instruments (was complete heal)

Stops=partials right. Agreed only brass instruments have them, that's what
I said ;-)
Simple woodwinds have no reeds. The hunting horn I have really isn't an
instrument at all to be honest, but it is the vibrations created inside the
horn that make the sound you hear. The different shapes of individual horns
affects the sounds heard.

Kit

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:33 PM
To: eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Instruments (was complete heal)


That is not correct. I'm not sure what you mean by "stops" - if you mean
"Partials" you have it backwards - only brass instruments have partials.
Regardless, the determination of instrument types is by how the sound itself
is generated. For brass instruments - the players lips vibration creates
the sound. This is how you play a Shofar (when I was a child - a big day
for me was when for the first time I beat the Rabbi's son in a
Shofar-blowing competition - after I started taking trombone lessons).

On a woodwind instrument - the sound is created by some part of the
instrument vibrating. On modern instruments - with the exception of the
flute this would be a reed (for a flute it's the vibrations caused by the
wind crossing its mouthpiece

A saxophone - for example - while made of brass is a woodwind
instrument.

As I have been taught (by some very good teachers) - for a brass player - we
are creating the sound itself. The instrument only amplifies the sound.
This is a good thing - because we're not constantly in search of a good
reed. Most sax/clarinet players will tell you if they get one or two in a
box of 20 - they are happy.

Slyde



-----Original Message-----
From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:32 PM
To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Instruments (was complete heal)

Actually it is more correct for it to be a wind instrument. Brass
instruments all have stops, wind instruments do not necessarily have them.

Kit

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 3:50 PM
To: eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Instruments (was complete heal)





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