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Message ID: 23901
Date: Wed Feb 21 19:04:34 GMT 2001
Author: Adam Wasserman
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


You should read Thott's article on power curves. (www.afterlifeguild.org) It
demonstrates that post 50, all classes increase in power exponentially
except for bards. The reason that all other classes scale that way is
because of the way the mobs increase in power post 50. Bards however
progress in power linearly. An argument can be made that we give some power
for our wealth of abilities, but if you look at the very highest levels, we
lose all of those additional abilities. Fear caps at 51, Charm caps at 53
and Mez caps at 55. That means that a level 60 bard fighting level 55+ mobs
is a liability to the party instead of an asset. We can no longer crowd
control, our haste and slow is vastly inferior to enchanters and shamen, our
melee is pathetic (to say the least). Our only role at that point is mana
battery.

Bards used to be useful in large raids for their ability to provide resists,
but given the influx of uber gear it is not difficult to obtain unbuffed
resists in the 150s in multiple areas. Add to that the soft cap on resists
and the fact that even with maxed resists many, many spells land anyway and
bards have little to no use in a raid. We can't provide our primary ability
(resists) and we don't do damage, so why bring us along?

Draelon Stormsong

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Sue [mailto:jsue@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:03 PM
To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


At 01:30 PM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I think that bards are probably over powered in the pre 50 game and under
>powered in the post 50 game.
>
>I see absolutely nothing in this patch that addresses EITHER of those
>beliefs. Furthermore, assuming that my personal belief is incorrect, I see
>nothing that does the opposite. Based on what I see in this patch, I have
to
>conclude that bards are perfect and all the other classes are being
balanced
>to match them, only I'm not seeing any reduction of power in the other
>classes post 50, in fact, I'm seeing modest improvements for them.

bards are not really underpowered in the post 50 game imo. they are
only underpowered on large multigroup raids. why is this? because
bards are best at being flexible and filling in the gaps of abilities not
represented in the group. generally in most well organized large multigroup
raids, all abilities ARE represented, leaving little for the bard to do.
i would say that bards are overpowered in most single group scenarios
(even post 50) and underpowered in most multi group raids which seems
as a whole compared to other classes to be overpowered. paladins/sks/
necros/druids/mages/rangers all are underpowered in the large raid type
encounters.
but they also aren't any more powerful in single group scenarios or
unbalanced
group scenarios either. necros and druids are slightly compensated in that
they
can solo well for most of their careers if they choose to. but the other
hybrids
seem to need some sort of enhancement.


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