Doh, had the wrong link to the power curves article, here it is...
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/powercurves.html
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From: Cranfill, Wendy [mailto:
Wendy_Cranfill@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:01 PM
To: '
eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message
I sort of agree here... although I think the large raid scenario is in a
class by itself. As a shaman you might say I'm "very valuable" on a large
raid. Last night we tried Dain again (and failed due to HUAS "Head Up A**
Syndrome) and I did absolutely NOTHING. Literally. Halana is 59 = no
focus, no torpor, no malo... also she does not have a vp hammer, so my buffs
are low level and mana inefficient. Clerics have bp heals... and not even
gonna SEE what happens if I try to slow Dain *grins*
Also, in my guild, bards are invaluable on large raids, but they become
specialists, twisting resists mostly... which probably feels like
"uselessness" to a bard who is used to playing varied roles.
I think class value on a large raid depends on a combination of factors:
level, class, and often, equipment. In my opinion, Hybrids (including Bards
here) are made by their gear. Give a ranger their epic swords and its
like the game has been reinvented for them. Give a shaman her epic spear
and *yawn* goodie, a mediocre dot... changes nothing. Just a couple
examples from my limited perspective.
Halana 59th "I hate Dain" Shaman
Tani 45th Bard
Solusek Ro
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Sue [mailto:jsue@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:03 PM
> To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message
>
>
> At 01:30 PM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >I think that bards are probably over powered in the pre 50
> game and under
> >powered in the post 50 game.
> >
> >I see absolutely nothing in this patch that addresses EITHER of those
> >beliefs. Furthermore, assuming that my personal belief is
> incorrect, I see
> >nothing that does the opposite. Based on what I see in this
> patch, I have to
> >conclude that bards are perfect and all the other classes
> are being balanced
> >to match them, only I'm not seeing any reduction of power in
> the other
> >classes post 50, in fact, I'm seeing modest improvements for them.
>
> bards are not really underpowered in the post 50 game imo. they are
> only underpowered on large multigroup raids. why is this? because
> bards are best at being flexible and filling in the gaps of
> abilities not
> represented in the group. generally in most well organized
> large multigroup
> raids, all abilities ARE represented, leaving little for the
> bard to do.
> i would say that bards are overpowered in most single group scenarios
> (even post 50) and underpowered in most multi group raids which seems
> as a whole compared to other classes to be overpowered. paladins/sks/
> necros/druids/mages/rangers all are underpowered in the large
> raid type encounters.
> but they also aren't any more powerful in single group
> scenarios or unbalanced
> group scenarios either. necros and druids are slightly
> compensated in that they
> can solo well for most of their careers if they choose to.
> but the other hybrids
> seem to need some sort of enhancement.
>
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