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Message ID: 24162
Date: Thu Mar 1 18:48:10 GMT 2001
Author: Garramone, Michael (CCI-Las Vegas)
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Whats the arguement?


> ok, except that every shaman after the first is unnecessary
> and every paladin after the
> first and those under lvl 60 are unnecessary. is necro mana
> pump really necessary? who pumps
> the necros? their pet damage is easily replaced by a mage
> pet, so that alone doesn't
> make them necessary. and since you didn't even mention
> druids, i'm assuming they
> are unimportant as well, heheh.

i knew i forgot someone hehe, i guess druids can go in the middle for their
heals now. and no, you are wrong about shaman. play a level 60 shaman at
an uber raid sometime. spend anywhere up to 10 hours constantly buffing
40-50 people. i could not and would not ever do it, it is masochism at its
finest. having 2, which is what we have, is important just for buff time
and shaman sanity. and 1 of ours is going to be playing less, though she
says that a lot, so the 1 we have is going to be stressed to the extreme.
anyway, you will see that does not make more than 1 necessary for the raid,
and i guess you are right, but that is my argument for having 2. same for
paladins, we are thinking of recruiting another, we only have 1. yes level
60 applies to both shaman and paladins, and most classes for the raids we
do. i have never played a necro, but i am guessing the necro's pump
themselves with their lich series or whatever it is, plus having
regen/zlandicar heart/etc. necro mana pump is good for buffing and if
cleric's go OOM, which never happens now because they are all dead, but was
important before. and i put them in the middle, not the very important
category.

> i didn't say they don't matter when you are in the minority.
> i said that you are not
> insignificant when you are in the minority. but when
> considering class balance, do
> you balance the game according to what 80% of the subscribers
> are doing or to what
> 20% or less of the subscribers are doing? it's almost
> impossible to do both because
> of all the hacks needed due to complete heal and levels post
> 50. to go off on a small
> tangent here, it seems that the game was designed as a 1 to
> 50 game, and when the
> success was so large and they decided to do an expansion and
> allow levels 50 to 60,
> they had to kludge and hack a lot of stuff together.

no doubt. but what are we all levelling for? it is a progression to level
60, and bards gain the lease amount of power through the post-50 levels.
once they hit 60, they have really gained very little.

Shada