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Message ID: 24654
Date: Tue May 8 09:47:00 BST 2001
Author: jay schultze
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Guild Loot Rules


Though I don't care for point systems, I think that sounds like a pretty
good one. The other only other one I am really aware of is the DKP system
Afterlife uses. Maybe Shada will fill you in on it. :P

My guild is small so all of our loot is assigned by the raid leader.
Occasionally there is someone that has something negative to say about it
when something is awarded, but then I have found that to be the case in
every single type of looting system I have seen, in some respect.


>From: "Cranfill, Wendy" <Wendy_Cranfill@...>
>Reply-To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
>To: "'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'" <eqbards@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [eqbards] Guild Loot Rules
>Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:05:29 -0600
>
>We dont have a public explanation of our system (at least to my
>knowledge)..
>but here is the lowdown:
>
>We use CP "Contest Points"
>
>Basically, loot drops. There is then a 30 second period in which people
>can
>"Contest" the loot using their points. The person with the highest points
>that chooses to contest a lotto then can exclude those who have more than
>20
>points less than him. Then a lotto is run with those remaining (often only
>1 or 2) and the winner has 5 points deducted from his total. You are
>allowed
>2 contest wins in a month.
>
>If nobody chooses to contest the lotto, then we run a regular lotto.
>
>We have a dynamic list of "ubermobs" which count for CP points and we earn
>one point for each mob, which can add up to 4 or more a night.
>
>Advantages:
>You don't lose points for every item. In some points systems you lose x
>points for x item. This is unfair as some items are "uber" when you first
>get them and "only ok" when you later win. Therefore we felt this type of
>system would unfairly punish those who get items later.
>
>Like most point systems, this one rewards those who play most (they have
>the
>most chance of amassing enough cp points to exclude others) but doens't
>punish those who play less (just takes longer to accumulate cp points)
>
>You don't HaVE to have points to win. In fact, most of our lottoes are NOT
>contested but run as normal.
>
>Disadvantages:
>Some of our addict level players dont feel it rewards them enough.
>Points in does in no way equal points out
>Since we get 1 point per mob, if you miss a 4 cp night, it really hurts.
>
>We are only in our 3rd month of this system but it seems to work well and
>has also cuased a HUGE jump in our attendance. Feel free to email me
>personally if you have any questions!
>
>Halana, 60th Shammykins
>Tani, 51st Bardette
><Paradigm>
>Solusek Ro
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Windleaf Mistsong [mailto:windleaf@...]
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:58 PM
> > To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [eqbards] Guild Loot Rules
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a url that for a point-based loot-rules
> > system? My current
> > guild is going through the "big guild" growing pains.
> >
> > Current problems are based around things like weighing
> > whether full-time
> > should get precedence over part-time players (me being a
> > part-time player
> > have my own opinion on this) and whether certain classes
> > should be excluded
> > from particular loots (us bards tend to get shunted aside for
> > the melee
> > classes as an example).
> >
> > For the record, at this time, I believe that people who
> > participate in more
> > raids should get a weighted advantage over part-timers, but
> > not to the
> > part-timer's exclusion. As for class exclusions, as a bard
> > it's a sensitive
> > subject to me. I'd prefer no class exclusions myself, just
> > restrict it to
> > those who could actually use the item. Another bard in my
> > guild left when
> > he ranted about being told he could not roll for a
> > breastplate somewhere in
> > Velious.
> >
> > Obviously a sticky situation. Since I'm on the rules committee for my
> > guild, I figured I'd find out how other guilds may have tried
> > to solve
> > these and other dilemmas. Though, one nice thing is that
> > there are 3 bards
> > on the rules committee. :-)
> >
> > Anyway, we all feel it's best to get rules written into stone
> > that are
> > approved by a large majority of the guild (3/4th I believe).
> > All sorts of
> > problems could be sorted out once we have a set up rules that are not
> > changed arbitrarily.
> >
> > ---Windleaf Mistsong
> > 48th level balladeer
> > Red Sky
> > Bertoxxulous
> >
> >
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