Answer: Hide/Sneak combo that Rogues get does not work for bards.
Answer: It is possible to raise your skill in Begging by targeting a pet and
being persistent. You will get no money or items but you can get skill
increases (based on personal experience).
Question: Does begging from NPC's affect your Factions with that NPC and if
so under what circumstances (i.e., on success and/or failure, etc.).
- Faras Tar'Linedhel
E'ci
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kim@... [mailto:kim@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 12:20 PM
> To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Less useful skills
>
>
> From: <kim@...>
>
> On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, John Robertson wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been using instll doubt and actually had it work a couple
> > > times. Last night, while I was invisible, I used instill
> > > doubt on a dark elf seargant in Nektulos. He gave the
> > > standard wood-elves-must-die cry, then said he was hit by 1
> > > point of non-melee damage, followed immediately by a message
> > > saying I'd kicked him. Then he ran away (due to the skill
> > > working). Huh?
> >
> > Wow, I am REALLY impressed. I have pressed this button
> hundreds of times...
> > maybe thousands, and NEVER had it work. I *have*
> experienced the kick thing
> > though.
>
> I've had it work twice in combat (once while the mob was
> snared, another when it wasn't and my party rightfully berated
> me for scaring off the mob), and once on that dark elf. It
> doesn't work often, but it does work.
>
> > Never begged, so i can't comment. When you beg from a mage
> pet... does it
> > give you anything?
>
> I have yet to succeed at it, as my skill is only 1. :-) I
> did get that 1 point on a failure, so skill gain does not seem
> to be success-based. I just thought some of the NPC behavior
> I'd seen after begging was odd. Hmm, I have 104 skill points
> sitting unused. Maybe I'll dump some into begging...
>
> > I believe that sneak works for other classes (monk and
> bard) but only rogues
> > get the success and failure messages associated with it.
> Given the bard's
> > very low sneak scores, it's possible that you're just
> failing your sneak all
> > the time, rather than the skill not working.
>
> No, I was succeeding. I tested it by seeing how slowly I was
> moving. I'm curious how they've implemented it if it's not
> based on factions. Maybe it's based on aggro radius?
>
> Another thing I should check is if we can do the hide-sneak
> combo that rogues get. I've heard only rogues can do this,
> but I have to wonder if people just say that because only
> rogues have a high enough hide/sneak cap to pull it off
> consistently. (If you don't know what I'm talking about, if a
> rogue successfully hides, then successfully sneaks, he can
> move while hidden.)
>
> By the way, playing around with these useless skills does make
> time on the boat pass more quickly.
>
> --
> John H. Kim
> kim@...
>