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Message ID: 6893
Date: Tue Sep 21 23:10:07 BST 1999
Author: Greg Gillan
Subject: RE: Petiton to replace level 14 song


This is getting silly. Why on earth would we get a tracking song, when we
already get the tracking skill??


Elwyn Heartstring
Level 40 Bard
Erollisi Marr

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Subject: Re: [eqbards] Petiton to replace level 14 song


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Item Subject: [eqbards] Petiton to replace level 14 song
Gentle Bards,

I agree with your idea in theory but not on your choice of song to
replace. Just last night I pulled out several items in my bank that
had been sitting around and tried the level 14 song on them. To my
surprise three of them gave me extra info. It seems that any item
that says illegible or blurred will now give you extra info with the
song. Nice touch. Don't know when they implemented this but I
finished 2 quests last night with the help of this song and will
finish the third when I get to Qeynos. This song is still not a real
heavyweight but it actually works now and more importantly Verant is
actively using it so they will not be receptive to removing it.
Perhaps the level 22 song.

your suggestions

1 and 2 Great ideas!

3. They'll never do it but would be nice.

4. I seem to have a perpetual taunt stamped on my forehead. <gr> I
certainly don't need a taunt song.

5. see 3 above

Another great idea they'll never do. A song that acts like the ranger
track skill.


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Subject: [eqbards] Petiton to replace level 14 song
Author: Non-HP-g4mntofcr (g4mntofcr@...) at
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Date: 9/21/99 2:03 PM


From: "Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4" <g4mntofcr@...>

I sent this out about an hour ago but I haven't received it back from the
list yet so sending it again just in case. Sorry if we end up getting it
posted twice.

Fellow bards,

I came into work today and there were relatively few messages on the list.
In an effort to jumpstart some discussion, I have the following proposal.

If enough people on this list thinks its a good idea, lets submit a petition

to have the level 14 song replaced. As most of you are aware, the song
currently has almost no usefulness. All magic items come already
identified. All you have to do is right click on it. The only situations I

have heard of the song providing any additional information is when it is
sung while holding a head. The name of the person who the head used to be
attached to can be discovered. This is only useful if you are turning in
the head as part of a quest. I am unaware of any other uses for this song.

I propose that we also provide Verant with some ideas on a song to replace
it with. The biggest thing to remember here is that the power of the new
song should be appropriate for a 14th level character. I don't think minor
versions of any higher level song are likely to get approved. The new song
should provide a completely new spell efffect. I request that everyone
submit to this list their idea of what the new 14th level song should be.
Once we get several good responses, we can all vote on which ones we think
have the best chance of getting approved. We can then submit the petition
to Verant with the entire list of suggested new songs ranked in the order we

vote on.

Here are a couple of ideas that I have:

1) A combination heal/stamina song that combines Jaxan's and Hymn. The
power of the song can either be the same as the two original songs or toned
down versions, perhaps 75% of the original values.

2) A song that increases agility and/or increases the Dodge skill. The
amount increased would be similar to the DEX increase you get when you sing
Chant of Battle. Song would affect the entire party. Equipping an
instrument, most likely the drum, would increase the effect of the song.

3) A song that would teleport the bard to the nearest bards guild. This
song would have to have some serious constraints placed on it in order for
Verant to even consider adding it. Perhaps only usable in outdoor zones (no

dungeons) and/or while not in combat. Should also require a high skill
level in the instrument that is required to play it. If you miss a note and

fail, the song button grays out for a specified amount of time before you
can try it again.

4) A song that has a major taunt effect above and beyond that or normal
bard songs. Useful in those situations where your casters are getting
mauled and you can't pull them off with normal means. Also useful if
someone is close to dying and the mob has frenzied on them.

5) A song that binds a bard to his current location. I don't think this
one would ever have a chance of getting approved but we can include it if
thats what everyone wants.

These are what I came up with on the fly. Make any modifications to these
that you like. Submit new ideas if you have one.

I'm in the Army and will be going out on a field exercise this Thursday for
the next week. Assuming this message generates a lot of positive response,
someone else will have to facilitate discussion on this issue until then. I

will write up the petition when I get back next week if we all come to an
agreement.

Galtin of E'ci