I think what we're saying here is that there are a large number of factors.
I have two machines I play on, both 300Mhz PIIs. My home one has cable, a
kinda lame IDE HD, and a Voodoo 2. My work one, has a 56k frame relay
shared by the company, a nice fast Baracudda SCSI UW hard disk, and a Riva
128. The work machine zones MUCH slower than my home machine. This would
suggest that network speed, and perhaps video play a part. Perhaps with
non-3dfx cards it has to do some conversion pass on the textures or
something. I think we should all go out and buy top of the line Athlon's
today. :)
At 05:03 PM 10/1/99 -0600, you wrote:
>From: "CYR, Thierry" <tcyr@...>
>
>video cards have alot to do with zoning times, im on a crappy 33.6k
>connection on a 450 with a voodoo 3000 and my friend has a tnt2 on a cable
>with same cpu speeds, he just recently ditched his voodoo2 for the tnt2 and
>he's zoning a lot less fast then before... and another buddie with slower
>machine (p200) is zoning much slower, i can go make a sandwhich before he
>finishes zoning.
>
>Minkin
>Sol ro
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JasonF [SMTP:JasonF@...]
>> Sent: October 1, 1999 6:42 PM
>> To: eqbards@onelist.com
>> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Zone times [OT]
>>
>> From: "JasonF" <JasonF@...>
>>
>> This is probably going to start another nasty thread, but the zoning times
>> in
>> EQ are enforced long time periods. This is to make zoning intentially
>> tedious
>> so that you don't overuse zoning to escape from monsters. I played on an
>> analog 56k modem connecting at 48000 downstream and 28000 upstream, and
>> when I
>> got 128K upstream, 128K downstream ISDN there was almost no difference in
>> zoning times.
>>
>> Crier Sharpsong - 25th on Fennin Ro
>>
>> Jason A. Farqu´┐¢
>> CDI at http://www.pigging.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Daniel P. Sniderman <fuzzbone@...>
>> To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 5:21 PM
>> Subject: [eqbards] Zone times [OT]
>>
>>
>> > From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
>> >
>> > It's ENTIRELY CPU related. I recently upgraded my X2 connection which
>> > averaged about 41-48K (of course that's upstream only 31K downstream) to
>> > SDSL at 768K (!!!!)
>> >
>> > There is ABSOLUTELY no difference in zoning times in Everquest. So
>> don't
>> > get your hopes up that getting that nifty cable modem, DSL Line (or
>> playing
>> > on that T1 at work when your boss isn't looking) is gonna erase the
>> annoying
>> > zone time.
>> >
>> > There is one difference though... In the analog world I saw that
>> anything
>> > over about 5-7 pct packet loss would create lag. At the ping times I'm
>> > getting now (averages around 125 - occasionally I see two digits pings
>> and
>> > sometimes close to 200) Even packet loss of close to 20 pct doesn't
>> really
>> > cause noticeable lag...
>> >
>> > The biggest advantage of course - when it has to download a patch - the
>> time
>> > download time is basically instantaneous.
>> >
>> > Slyde
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Kimes, Dean W. <Dean_Kimes@...>
>> > To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:19 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [eqbards] RE: Hey this sounded interesting.. *Time to
>> KABOING
>> > ??*
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>> > >
>> > > Odd, could be cpu speed as well I know my neighbor has a slow box but
>> I
>> > have
>> > > a 450. Still nearly double the ping making it an extra minute or so
>> does
>> > > not surprise me. An extra minute per zone would still add 10 minutes
>> or
>> > > more.
>> > >
>> > > Kitasi
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Naeeldar [mailto:jackal@...]
>> > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:57 PM
>> > > To: eqbards@onelist.com
>> > > Subject: Re: [eqbards] RE: Hey this sounded interesting.. *Time to
>> > > KABOING ??*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: "Naeeldar" <jackal@...>
>> > >
>> > > I guess I play on a 28.8 as a matter of fact and it takes me a mere
>> minute
>> > > to zone with a average of 268 ping.
>> > >
>> > > Naeeldar
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Kimes, Dean W. <Dean_Kimes@...>
>> > > To: 'eqbards@onelist.com' <eqbards@onelist.com>
>> > > Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:11 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: [eqbards] RE: Hey this sounded interesting.. *Time to
>> KABOING
>> > > ??*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>> > > >
>> > > >Maybe with DSL. It takes me 2-3 minutes just to zone and I have a
>> 56k
>> > > modem
>> > > >due to having a nearly 500 ping, which Brad recently said was within
>> the
>> > > >average range (200-500). 9 zones takes 18-27 minutes just for
>> zoning.
>> > My
>> > > >neighbor who plays on a 33.6 modem takes 4 minutes to zon on average.
>> > Now
>> > > >that's painful.
>> > > >
>> > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: Naeeldar [mailto:jackal@...]
>> > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:02 PM
>> > > >To: eqbards@onelist.com
>> > > >Subject: Re: [eqbards] RE: Hey this sounded interesting.. *Time to
>> > > >KABOING ??*
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >From: "Naeeldar" <jackal@...>
>> > > >
>> > > >Why would the trip from Qeynos to Freeport take 45 minutes? With
>> selo's
>> > you
>> > > >can easily make it in 20.
>> > > >
>> > > >Naeeldar
>> > > >
>> > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: Blair, Keith (Keith Blair) <kblair@...>
>> > > >To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
>> > > >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:07 AM
>> > > >Subject: RE: [eqbards] RE: Hey this sounded interesting.. *Time to
>> > KABOING
>> > > >??*
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>From: "Blair, Keith (Keith Blair)" <kblair@...>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> I think the melee/hybrid/caster thread needs to
>> > > >>> be kaboinged.. now. And the bind thread should IMO
>> > > >>> go the same way, but first I would like to
>> > > >>
>> > > >>If you have an opinion on it, which you do - then it doesn't need to
>> be
>> > > >>"kabonged" after you get your opinion noted. Everyone should be free
>> to
>> > > >>speak on the issue.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> If there wasent a penalty like this the game would
>> > > >>> turn into something very boring.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>And boy oh boy it's such exciting fun running back to
>> > > >>your corpse. Yay!
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> With selo's we are pretty well off for travelling and
>> > > >>> giving bards bind will seriusly overpower unless it was
>> > > >>> made useless by giving it penalties.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Selo's gives us a good way of GETTING somewhere. It
>> > > >>doesn't even come close to comparing to gate.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>I'd be interested in seeing the results of a caster
>> > > >>and a bard racing from Freeport to Qeynos and back.
>> > > >>I can see it now. Caster pays 1pp for SOW and nearly
>> > > >>keeps up with bard. Bard arrives in Qeynos let's
>> > > >>be generous and say 10 minutes before wizard does.
>> > > >>Bard heads back and gleefully waves at wizard still
>> > > >>on his way to Qeynos. Wizard gets to Qeynos. Wizard
>> > > >>gates back to Freeport and laughs it up for 45 minutes
>> > > >>while the bard is still running.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Or better yet, high level bard & high level wizard in
>> > > >>the same race. Bard takes off a runnin'.. Wizard does
>> > > >>his fancy teleport to the Karana's. Runs rest of way
>> > > >>to Qeynos. Gates back to Freeport. Bard arrives in West
>> > > >>Commons on his way to Qeynos.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Yeah, Selo's makes up for all of that.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
Steven S. Klug
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