On Mon, Oct 04/99, Miriana <miriana@...> wrote:

> From: Miriana <miriana@...>

>.... Sure, in combat you're just going to
> sit back and do absolutely nothing because having to pull stuff off you
> would make you a liability, but your utility songs are still extremely
> useful when you're naked.

When you get a bit higher _as a bard_ you're going to discover the joys
of being on a mob's hate list before you even play a song. I was res'd
back into the tunnels of Sol B shortly before I stopped actively playing
my bard, and dispite the fact that I was off down the tunnel quite a way
when someone trained our group with some bats and LDC's, and a LDC made a
special trip down the tunnel to hit me with blood boil and kill me
dispite being under assault from warriors and wizards in the rest of the
party.

>
> > that's how it always worked on our server with our groups.
>
> I read your argument, and to me you just basically said "I would
> not choose to be bound outside a dungeon because that's how it always
> worked." I fail to see the logic in that.
> I agree, that's how it works, no one is disputing that. But is
> that the best way? No. If you were bound right outside the dungeon,
> you'd be assisting with corpse retrieval with mana song all the way down.
> The only reason that's the way it works now is because you cannot be
> bound right outside the dungeon.

Or maybe that's how it is because people have tried your idea and found
it not to work.

>
> > At higher levels an unarmored and weakly armed player is more of a
> > liability than a bonus when doing corpse recovery. I was in a 2 group
>
> Certainly not. You get them a decent weapon (magician summoned
> weapons are actually quite good) and they stay off their taunt button, and
> they are still a very signifigant source of damage, with enough hit points
> where a cleric can keep them alive if they pull stuff on them for some
> reason.

> Last time I walked into Lower Guk... A group at the zone line, a
> group at the bedroom, a group at the gibs, a group in the assassin's room,
> a group in the savant room, a group at the magi, a group at frenzied. And
> that's just the undead side... * sigh *

Yup, it's a totally different game now than the one I played, and I
think I liked the one I played a lot more.

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