I still disagree. I have both a ranger and a bard.
In combat, my ranger
Kicks
Taunts
Snares (once per mob)
Flame Licks occaisionally for additional taunt
That's about it. In the 23 levels of my ranger, I've never had trouble
chatting while fighting, and I rarely miss a beat with any of my buttons.
In combat my bard
Sings song 1
Sings song 2
Sings song 3
Occasisionally sings song 4
Assists several times
Launches pet when charming
Targets all over the place to keep things charmed / mezzed
Switches Instruments if doing an all song attack
In 47 levels, I've never been able to get out a single sentance during
combat, unless it was 3 words or less.
In terms of pure button pushing, if I push 2 buttons every 3-6 seconds, that
adds up to WAY more than pushing 2 buttons every 6-12 seconds (taunt and
kick refresh to the best of my recollection) with an occasional extra button
press to throw off a spell.
Put it to the test, count the button pushes with your ranger in an average
60 second fight, vs those of your bard. Unless you're a 1 song wonder (which
I doubt) I'd put my money on the bard every time to have more button pushes.
Drae
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin L. Crawford [mailto:
Lyrnia@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:50 PM
To:
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Subject: Re: [eqbards] getting new friends
heh believe what you want. I didn't say primary tank. Rangers are NOT
primary tanks. Rangers are 2ndary and as such they should ALWAYS watch
EVERYONE (including the bard) because they're the next best tank in the
group (unless there is an SK or Pally)
Snare isn't quite as easy as you think unless you just don't bother snaring
every critter. Its not easy to pop-target 6 mobs to make sure they're
snared then get back on the right one. Trust me there is a LOT of button
pushing if you're a GOOD ranger, just like there is if you're a GOOD bard.
Me and the bard I run with (when I'm not playing my bard) have a blast. I
pop-snare an entire room while they beat on me and he sings Largo's then he
AE fear's while AE dotting I beat up one at a time and we rake in XP hand
over fist.
I'm sorry that you don't agree but obviously you have a different style with
your warrior than I do with my ranger. As a Ranger I see it as my job to
make sure every un-engaged mob stays OFF every other party member and is
either rooted, snared or otherwise occupied so that the casters can do their
jobs without being killed (and a bard, in this case, is considred a caster
by me).
Bottom line:
Bards have to time their button presses, others don't. That does not mean a
bard is pushing more buttons. And if your bard is pounding Sense heading
during combat then he's a fool. The ranger CAN do it without reducing his
overall effectiveness, so he does. In fact I'll sometimes even pop tracking
just to see what's around. A bard can't do that while trying to twist 3
songs because of timing. Does that mean a bard is hitting more buttons?
Nope, just means they have to time their button presses. I don't so I tend
to pound buttons non-stop as a ranger.
Matter of fact, I would say that when playing my ranger my fingers never
stop moving unless we're resting between fights. Even then I'm hitting
track now and then to see if a named has popped.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Big Daddy Legba" <legba@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] getting new friends
> Sense Heading: That goes for any character, not just rangers... Perhaps
> bard have a slightly higher int which would help a small amount.
>
> Make sure you have the correct target? What class doesn't have to do
that?
>
> Snare: Not exactly tough to do, when you get the snare breaks message,
cast
> it again.
>
> Hit Kick: Yup
>
> Taunt: Why would you hit taunt all the time? It only works when the
monster
> is on someone else. And again when it light up you hit it. Very easy.
>
> Keep an eye on casters: I do this more as a bard than my roomate does as
a
> warrior. Why? because he's the tank, I want to stay on the main monster,
> let the extra mellees help the casters.
>
> No offense taken, but I can't disagree more with what you said. My first
> char was a warrior, who is the exact same thing, minus the snare...
>
>
>
> Hit Sense heading constantly to max skill
> Make sure you have correct target
> Make sure target stays snared (esp painful if there's a magician in the
grou
> **curses all magicians and their stupid earth pets**)
> Hit Kick when button recycles
> Hit Taunt whenever button recycles (unless there is a warrior in the
group)
> Keep an eye on the casters to make sure nothing jumps them. If it does,
run
> over, taunt it away and stick-root it.
>
> No offense guys. I've played 3 bards over 20th level (beta, test and
> release server) (Beta to 30, Test to 51, Release server to 46) and, yes,
we
> have a lot of button pushing to do. But all other hybrids have it just as
> bad, if not worse:
>
>
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