Hehehe you're not listening
In the course of a single fight my ranger does the following:
1) Snares EVERY mob pulled right off the bat.
2) Fires DOTS at every mob pulled right off the bat (This has the added
bonus of keeping things from going turbo on the party bard or healer the
first time they cast).
3) Assists the main tank
4) Spot-Taunts things off any caster that goes too far overboard
5) Pops tracking now and then to keep me appraised of if a named has
spawned (I notify group if one has and go get him if they say to)
6) Spot-Heal's (39 is fun) any caster that is looking a lil low on hp
(takes some strain off the healers and builds up my taunt so the
cleric/druid/whatever can throw a big heal without getting turbo'd a bit
more often)
7) Kicks
8) Taunts to back up tank if he's hurting
9) Spot - Root if a mob is driving a caster nuts and just can't be taunted
off
10) Pound sense heading every time that button comes up.
11) pop autoattack, forage, autoattack (very rapid) whenever forage recycles
;)
So, as you can see, my ranger is doing a LOT more than
kick/taunt/snare/Flame lick during a fight. :) Oh, I also nuke with
lightning (you could use your ignite spell) as needed to help burn down
casters faster.
Between fights I give everyone who wants them Ranger buffs and if outdoors I
take care of SOW to keep the Druid's mana from dropping like a stone.
As a bard I tend to do the following:
Sing 4 songs during combat (pick four, sing) (4 buttons, double punched)
Charm the occasional nasty that goes after a caster then hit "N" (sorry,
beta keyboard mappings) to target the nearest NPC and sic my pet on it then
I go back to singing my medly and re-charming the nasty from time to time.
Crowd control I spin 2 or 3 songs:
Charm - sic pet on nearest nasty
<insert 2 songs here (usually pixie strike on a 3rd npc)>
I personally am not coordinated enough to keep 4 songs going when trying to
charm as crowd control.
Regen/Manasong between fights
So, yes, we push a lot of buttons but not necessarily *more*. It all
depends on playstyle. I know tanks, and play a tank, that never stops
punching buttons for more than 2 seconds at a time (which means I'm pushing
at least as many, if not more, buttons than my bard) My bard is far more
INTENSE action because I have to keep everything timed while doing it. But
my ranger is definitely MORE button pushing overall.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Wasserman" <wassermana@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] getting new friends
> I still disagree. I have both a ranger and a bard.
>
> In combat, my ranger
>
> Kicks
> Taunts
> Snares (once per mob)
> Flame Licks occaisionally for additional taunt
>
> That's about it. In the 23 levels of my ranger, I've never had trouble
> chatting while fighting, and I rarely miss a beat with any of my buttons.
>
> In combat my bard
>
> Sings song 1
> Sings song 2
> Sings song 3
> Occasisionally sings song 4
> Assists several times
> Launches pet when charming
> Targets all over the place to keep things charmed / mezzed
> Switches Instruments if doing an all song attack
>
> In 47 levels, I've never been able to get out a single sentance during
> combat, unless it was 3 words or less.
>
> In terms of pure button pushing, if I push 2 buttons every 3-6 seconds,
that
> adds up to WAY more than pushing 2 buttons every 6-12 seconds (taunt and
> kick refresh to the best of my recollection) with an occasional extra
button
> press to throw off a spell.
>
> Put it to the test, count the button pushes with your ranger in an average
> 60 second fight, vs those of your bard. Unless you're a 1 song wonder
(which
> I doubt) I'd put my money on the bard every time to have more button
pushes.
>
> Drae
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin L. Crawford [mailto:Lyrnia@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:50 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] getting new friends
>
>
> heh believe what you want. I didn't say primary tank. Rangers are NOT
> primary tanks. Rangers are 2ndary and as such they should ALWAYS watch
> EVERYONE (including the bard) because they're the next best tank in the
> group (unless there is an SK or Pally)
>
> Snare isn't quite as easy as you think unless you just don't bother
snaring
> every critter. Its not easy to pop-target 6 mobs to make sure they're
> snared then get back on the right one. Trust me there is a LOT of button
> pushing if you're a GOOD ranger, just like there is if you're a GOOD bard.
>
> Me and the bard I run with (when I'm not playing my bard) have a blast. I
> pop-snare an entire room while they beat on me and he sings Largo's then
he
> AE fear's while AE dotting I beat up one at a time and we rake in XP hand
> over fist.
>
> I'm sorry that you don't agree but obviously you have a different style
with
> your warrior than I do with my ranger. As a Ranger I see it as my job to
> make sure every un-engaged mob stays OFF every other party member and is
> either rooted, snared or otherwise occupied so that the casters can do
their
> jobs without being killed (and a bard, in this case, is considred a caster
> by me).
>
> Bottom line:
> Bards have to time their button presses, others don't. That does not mean
a
> bard is pushing more buttons. And if your bard is pounding Sense heading
> during combat then he's a fool. The ranger CAN do it without reducing his
> overall effectiveness, so he does. In fact I'll sometimes even pop
tracking
> just to see what's around. A bard can't do that while trying to twist 3
> songs because of timing. Does that mean a bard is hitting more buttons?
> Nope, just means they have to time their button presses. I don't so I
tend
> to pound buttons non-stop as a ranger.
>
> Matter of fact, I would say that when playing my ranger my fingers never
> stop moving unless we're resting between fights. Even then I'm hitting
> track now and then to see if a named has popped.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Big Daddy Legba" <legba@...>
> To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] getting new friends
>
>
> > Sense Heading: That goes for any character, not just rangers...
Perhaps
> > bard have a slightly higher int which would help a small amount.
> >
> > Make sure you have the correct target? What class doesn't have to do
> that?
> >
> > Snare: Not exactly tough to do, when you get the snare breaks message,
> cast
> > it again.
> >
> > Hit Kick: Yup
> >
> > Taunt: Why would you hit taunt all the time? It only works when the
> monster
> > is on someone else. And again when it light up you hit it. Very easy.
> >
> > Keep an eye on casters: I do this more as a bard than my roomate does
as
> a
> > warrior. Why? because he's the tank, I want to stay on the main
monster,
> > let the extra mellees help the casters.
> >
> > No offense taken, but I can't disagree more with what you said. My
first
> > char was a warrior, who is the exact same thing, minus the snare...
> >
> >
> >
> > Hit Sense heading constantly to max skill
> > Make sure you have correct target
> > Make sure target stays snared (esp painful if there's a magician in the
> grou
> > **curses all magicians and their stupid earth pets**)
> > Hit Kick when button recycles
> > Hit Taunt whenever button recycles (unless there is a warrior in the
> group)
> > Keep an eye on the casters to make sure nothing jumps them. If it does,
> run
> > over, taunt it away and stick-root it.
> >
> > No offense guys. I've played 3 bards over 20th level (beta, test and
> > release server) (Beta to 30, Test to 51, Release server to 46) and, yes,
> we
> > have a lot of button pushing to do. But all other hybrids have it just
as
> > bad, if not worse:
> >
> >
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