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Message ID: 6834
Date: Mon Sep 20 18:10:12 BST 1999
Author: John Robertson
Subject: Re: Less useful skills


kim@... wrote:

> From: <kim@...>
>
> I trained disarm traps. Ignoring for the moment that there
> are no traps in the game to disarm, does anyone know how we're
> supposed to disarm traps when we don't get locate traps?
> Relying on a rogue to locate the traps for you is pointless
> since he'll be better at disarming them. And finding traps by
> triggering them is also pointless since once they're triggered
> they don't need to be disarmed (unless of course they're
> designed to be continuous, which would seem to make locate
> traps useless).
>

I too have trained in this, but never actually found anything to disarm.

>
> I've been using instll doubt and actually had it work a couple
> times. Last night, while I was invisible, I used instill
> doubt on a dark elf seargant in Nektulos. He gave the
> standard wood-elves-must-die cry, then said he was hit by 1
> point of non-melee damage, followed immediately by a message
> saying I'd kicked him. Then he ran away (due to the skill
> working). Huh?
>

Wow, I am REALLY impressed. I have pressed this button hundreds of times...
maybe thousands, and NEVER had it work. I *have* experienced the kick thing
though.

>
> I've been playing around with beg as well. Apparently you can
> beg from monsters and mage pets, but not ships and PCs. I
> tried begging from a merchant and a guard in East Commonlands.
> In both cases, they immediately killed a wandering monster
> nearby. It might've been coincidence, but I have to wonder.
> I've seen guards kill players for begging from them before, so
> I was expecting them to attack me.
>

Never begged, so i can't comment. When you beg from a mage pet... does it
give you anything?

>
> Sneak... I've heard rogues say they use sneak to make
> merchants indifferent to them. I can do the same thing with
> hide, but haven't been able to do it with sneak, even when I
> sneak successfully (move like a glacier). I'll have to test
> it by trying to sneak past some mobs. I suppose it's possible
> the skill is broken for non-rogues.
>

Sneaking no longer lets rogues shop where they could not shop before, as my
starving rogue discovered the other day.

I believe that sneak works for other classes (monk and bard) but only rogues
get the success and failure messages associated with it. Given the bard's
very low sneak scores, it's possible that you're just failing your sneak all
the time, rather than the skill not working.

Jyzan