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Message ID: 6908
Date: Wed Sep 22 00:27:20 BST 1999
Author: Mike Roach
Subject: RE: Petiton to replace level 14 song


LoL - I really like this idea too, hang out in a Tavern and identify Lore
Items for people, oh...wait a minute...most of these LORE items are NO DROP
and some are NO TRADE. I have to be holding it to identify the lore on
it...hmmm, Verant Verant Verant...sigh.

- Faras "Its a good thing I know who's rotting, bloody ogre head this is
that seems to be stuck in my pack" Tar'Linedhel



> -----Original Message-----
> From: John.Curry@... [mailto:John.Curry@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 6:11 PM
> To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Petiton to replace level 14 song
>
>
> From: John.Curry@...
>
> Great news. I have never even purchased the 14th level song.
> I just wrote
> it off as useless. I will have to purchase it and try it out.
>
> I believe that since this song now has at lease some effect, that they
> probably wont even consider replacing it. If they were to
> start adding more
> and more lore to items, I think that this would fit our class
> more than
> anything else.
>
> I imagine sitting in a tavern or at a player congregation
> point. Examining
> rare items for players and relaying the story to them. It
> could be really
> cool. Heck, we could do that now and non-bards would never
> know. I can see
> it now, it would be like the psycic hotline *grin*
>
> Newbie: Hey can you tell me the lore on this minotaur axe.
>
> Bard: Sure, lets take a look at it.....( rubs the axe on his
> forhead ) Ahhhh.. Its comming to me now... .. this axe belonged to a
> minotaur... oohh a very lonely minotaur... Oh no.. The
> minotaur's
> parents have split up and now he is very sad... oh wait.. I
> think.. ermm...
> yes.. the original owner of this Axe is dead!!
>
> Newbie: Oooohh.. Wow....cool... How did you doooo that.
>
>
> Grin Chuckle
>
> Sevin Tercet 20th Human Minstrel
> on Brell
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RON_TALBOT@...
> [mailto:RON_TALBOT@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:10 PM
> To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Petiton to replace level 14 song
>
>
> From: RON_TALBOT@...
>
> Item Subject: [eqbards] Petiton to replace level 14 song
> Gentle Bards,
>
> I agree with your idea in theory but not on your choice
> of song to
> replace. Just last night I pulled out several items in
> my bank that
> had been sitting around and tried the level 14 song on
> them. To my
> surprise three of them gave me extra info. It seems
> that any item
> that says illegible or blurred will now give you extra
> info with the
> song. Nice touch. Don't know when they implemented this but I
> finished 2 quests last night with the help of this song and will
> finish the third when I get to Qeynos. This song is
> still not a real
> heavyweight but it actually works now and more
> importantly Verant is
> actively using it so they will not be receptive to removing it.
> Perhaps the level 22 song.
>
> your suggestions
>
> 1 and 2 Great ideas!
>
> 3. They'll never do it but would be nice.
>
> 4. I seem to have a perpetual taunt stamped on my
> forehead. <gr> I
> certainly don't need a taunt song.
>
> 5. see 3 above
>
> Another great idea they'll never do. A song that acts
> like the ranger
> track skill.
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
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> Subject: [eqbards] Petiton to replace level 14 song
> Author: Non-HP-g4mntofcr (g4mntofcr@...) at
> HP-ColSprings,shargw5
> Date: 9/21/99 2:03 PM
>
>
> From: "Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4" <g4mntofcr@...>
>
> I sent this out about an hour ago but I haven't received it
> back from the
> list yet so sending it again just in case. Sorry if we end
> up getting it
> posted twice.
>
> Fellow bards,
>
> I came into work today and there were relatively few messages
> on the list.
> In an effort to jumpstart some discussion, I have the
> following proposal.
>
> If enough people on this list thinks its a good idea, lets
> submit a petition
>
> to have the level 14 song replaced. As most of you are
> aware, the song
> currently has almost no usefulness. All magic items come already
> identified. All you have to do is right click on it. The
> only situations I
>
> have heard of the song providing any additional information
> is when it is
> sung while holding a head. The name of the person who the
> head used to be
> attached to can be discovered. This is only useful if you
> are turning in
> the head as part of a quest. I am unaware of any other uses
> for this song.
>
> I propose that we also provide Verant with some ideas on a
> song to replace
> it with. The biggest thing to remember here is that the
> power of the new
> song should be appropriate for a 14th level character. I
> don't think minor
> versions of any higher level song are likely to get approved.
> The new song
> should provide a completely new spell efffect. I request
> that everyone
> submit to this list their idea of what the new 14th level
> song should be.
> Once we get several good responses, we can all vote on which
> ones we think
> have the best chance of getting approved. We can then submit
> the petition
> to Verant with the entire list of suggested new songs ranked
> in the order we
>
> vote on.
>
> Here are a couple of ideas that I have:
>
> 1) A combination heal/stamina song that combines Jaxan's and
> Hymn. The
> power of the song can either be the same as the two original
> songs or toned
> down versions, perhaps 75% of the original values.
>
> 2) A song that increases agility and/or increases the Dodge
> skill. The
> amount increased would be similar to the DEX increase you get
> when you sing
> Chant of Battle. Song would affect the entire party. Equipping an
> instrument, most likely the drum, would increase the effect
> of the song.
>
> 3) A song that would teleport the bard to the nearest bards
> guild. This
> song would have to have some serious constraints placed on it
> in order for
> Verant to even consider adding it. Perhaps only usable in
> outdoor zones (no
>
> dungeons) and/or while not in combat. Should also require a
> high skill
> level in the instrument that is required to play it. If you
> miss a note and
>
> fail, the song button grays out for a specified amount of
> time before you
> can try it again.
>
> 4) A song that has a major taunt effect above and beyond
> that or normal
> bard songs. Useful in those situations where your casters
> are getting
> mauled and you can't pull them off with normal means. Also useful if
> someone is close to dying and the mob has frenzied on them.
>
> 5) A song that binds a bard to his current location. I
> don't think this
> one would ever have a chance of getting approved but we can
> include it if
> thats what everyone wants.
>
> These are what I came up with on the fly. Make any
> modifications to these
> that you like. Submit new ideas if you have one.
>
> I'm in the Army and will be going out on a field exercise
> this Thursday for
> the next week. Assuming this message generates a lot of
> positive response,
> someone else will have to facilitate discussion on this issue
> until then. I
>
> will write up the petition when I get back next week if we
> all come to an
> agreement.
>
> Galtin of E'ci
>
>
>
>
>
>
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