Ewwww. Yuck yuck yuck. A trusted friend and a trusted
guildmember and friend at odds about what went on. Please
leave me out of it. I wasn't there when it happened, so don't
make me take sides. All I can do is reiterate my position
that I will not exploit bugs like this, except to test them so
I can send in an accurate bug report.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, SteelWolf wrote:
>
> Oh, let's be a little more exact in your re-telling please. An OOC
> comment was made as follows: "I never thought I'd read about a exploit
> on eqbards and see it being used in-game by a bard on that list". Three
> members of your group replied they were not using any exploit, but you
> were, since I am familiar with the exploit, and you WERE using it. How
> do I know? I made the OOC comment, I was on another character. I never
> sent you any tell, and never said you would be banned, as that is not in
> my power to do so. A member of your party commented "exploits are part
> of the game" to which I replied "and it is a part of the game, that when
> used, is bannable without warning". This has been stated by Karana's
> GM-Lead (Mennix) over server broadcast before, you may ask him how he
> feels about people using the cazic temple pathing exploit to verify this
> should you feel like it.
>
> I wouldn't want you to feel you didn't have a face for your accuser,
> which is me. I don't know whether you read this list before using the
> exploit at the Cazic temple or not, it doesn't change the fact your
> group was using the exploit, and had been doing so for quite awhile
> before I commented on it. Had you truely been naive to what you were
> doing, I suspect any ooc comment from your group would have been along
> the lines of "where?" not "no we aren't!" as was the case with groups in
> other areas of the dungeon.
>
> To paraphrase John Kim, he said, "some people view the pathing bug
> (exploit) as an annoyance, others as an opportunity. Obviously I will
> never agree with you on this issue, since I view bugs and exploits
> abusing them as an annoyance, while you view them as a opportunity.
>
> Ariell Thunderwolf, Karana
>
> Beatdrop Battledrum wrote:
> >
> > Sorry about responding so late to this, I just got caught up on the
> > list. All this weekend I was hunting in Cazic and one night 4 of us
> > were doing the Temple. There was a group at the top and one on the
> > outer area so we stayed on the first rung of the temple and were
> > pulling when we noticed this bug. Mind you, I hadn't read the list
> > yet, so I didn't hear about this exploit. One pull, we had two
> > lizards and one started to run when we had it to the sliver, so he was
> > heading down the last flight of steps where we killed him. The other
> > group watched us fighting there on the steps for this pull and after
> > the fight I get a /tell from one of the members suggesting that I
> > shouldn't use that exploit. WTF? What exploit? He wouldn't tell me
> > and I slightly forgot about it. Then while our ranger kept trying to
> > pull and couldn't get the lizzies to follow him, I decided to try a
> > charm pull, which did make it so I can pull the lizards.
> >
> > A few minutes later on OOC, the same guy that had sent me the /tell
> > and one of his guildmembers, were basically accusing me of exploiting
> > telling me I was gonna get banned, all because of the fact that I am a
> > bard and the exploit was posted on this list... which he said later on
> > in OOC. I tried to explain what I was and wasn't doing but they
> > wouldn't listen.
> >
> > As a side note, I don't feel that this list is appropriate for posting
> > exploits. I don't want to know about them nor do I want to use them.
> > Just because it was posted here, a few people were accusing me just
> > because I was a bard fighting in the area of the exploit. So please,
> > I don't mind the spoilers, but I am sure other people on the list
> > including myself don't want to hear about exploits.
> >
> > --
> > ~Beatdrop Battledrum <Platinum Sphere>
> > Child of Erollisi Marr
> > Karana Server
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